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By: Grey Kurka

Grey Kurka — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:45:53 +0000

The fact is, if they are serious about acknowledging, encouraging, and hopefully archiving artwork created with the SL environment they need to reach out to the art community and hire a professional curator, or two. If this is simply going to be amateur hour with “M” and the boys saying ” I don’t what art is, but I will know it when I see it.” then please spare us. It is all a bit too much like Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland saying, “Hey gang. Lets put on a show! Please show the artists and the artwork created within second Life the respect it deserves. There is indeed a great deal of incredible work generated within this environment, and as part of the broader experiment of “create your own world” it is something that needs to be cataloged responsibly. Every one that uses this mercurial medium is an artist no matter what their preferred method or skill level. The beauty of the SL build tools is in their simplicity. They have allowed access and provided inspiration for a multitude of people to engage in the creative process that may very well have never done so otherwise. Let us not collapse into petty discussions about what is TRUE art, rather let’s hope that this endeavor is sincere, and well intentioned, however it needs the focus of a trained professional. In so far as I would not want creatives programming the servers, please don’t leave it to programmers to curate the art.

By: Reed Steamroller

Reed Steamroller — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:41:24 +0000

“Art” is one of those funny things, I think, that you can’t really define. It escapes definition, you can’t always put it in a box and label it. That’s what makes it art I suppose, and the truth is in the eye of the beholder. There will never be a definition that will meet everyone’s criteria needed to describe what art is, let alone what art in Second Life is.

If something someone created moves you in some way, or speaks or connects to you somehow, chances are you could call whatever that something is art. This goes for any type of expression, be it performance, music, video or a virtual sculpture of some sort. There is no litmus test for this.

That being said, I still think an appropriate course of action here is needed. We need to take things on a case by case basis, and judge the contributions of residents by merit. For ONCE I actually relate to what Captain Redgrave is talking about. SL is plagued by an “old boys club” of sorts, an upper echelon of residents that *somehow* seem to control who or what deserves the attention of the Second Life community. Some call this the FIC. I know this sounds like paranoia, but it isn’t. This a real problem, and I am really worried that the same problems residents experienced while participating at SL6B and Burning Life are going to hamper the Linden Endowment for the Arts.

So, in summary, I don’t think a definition of Second Life Art is really that important. What IS important is that any organisation controlling who and what receives support from the Linden Endowment for the Arts is unbiased. In order for this to be a successful endeavour, residents and resident’s projects should receive support based on merit, for themselves, and for their work. Otherwise, we’re going to see the same people month after month releasing their fantastic new creation, funded by the Linden Endowment for the Arts. And who will these people be? Probably the friends of whoever is on the board of the Linden Endowment of the Arts.

By: Reed Steamroller

Reed Steamroller — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:20:49 +0000

what?

By: Tish

Tish — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:12:32 +0000

SL fashion should also be considered art. Many of us spend just as much time if not more working on our pieces from scratch. We also make some of the most original artistic pieces ever designed. Check out NPIRL fashion – http://www.flickr.com/groups/npirlfashion/ http://npirl.blogspot.com/search/label/fashion

By: Captain Redgrave

Captain Redgrave — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:09:02 +0000

It’s only going to be the popular kids choosing who’s coolest like everything that is so called Linden run. Why bother.

By: cobrayogesh Texan

cobrayogesh Texan — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:58:26 +0000

artisans have always been pathetic i came into sl to create clothes but a guy gave me his one time transferrable light pant for 150 L$ and told me good luck one day u ll be like me standing here and nowhwere to go. artists always regret on how hard they’ve tried but failed at the art of compassion and confidence and i know for sure the new sl viewer is not good as the last one pls help the 1000′s of designers who have something to offer thank you

By: Sarah Westland

Sarah Westland — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:39:44 +0000

Wikipedia defines art as “the process or product of deliberately arranging elements in a way that appeals to the senses or emotions. It encompasses a diverse range of human activities, creations, and modes of expression, including music, literature, film, sculpture, and paintings. The meaning of art is explored in a branch of philosophy known as aesthetics”

I think that says it best and anything that applies to that should be considered.

Also, Second Life musicians perform in RL not SL, and some SL painters use RL mediums. Their 2d art is just as much a part of the SL art community as 3d art.

By: Traci Yiyuan

Traci Yiyuan — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:33:16 +0000

Rowan Derryth did a nice job of defining what constitutes Second Life art for him on the Prim Perfect website*. In his words it has to both be rezzed and to resonate. I’m tired of seeing Second Life snapshots being called art, and as much as I love paintings and drawings, a picture of an oil canvas is not really “Second Life art,” at least not to me.

The art should use the special features of this media (particles, lights, prims, lighting effects) to be considered “Second Life Art,” if you ask me.

It doesn’t make me comfortable that the same people who brought us the open space crisis and many other debacles will be the definers, but I like the idea of this medium being supported. I will watch this with interest.

*Rowan’s full post is at http://primperfectblog.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/ekphrasis-an-introduction/

By: Tawne

Tawne — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:32:45 +0000

I don’t see how music is art. When is the last time you went to a museum, and saw music exhibits? How would you even exhibit music? I think Crap sees $$$.

By: Az Afterthought

Az Afterthought — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:19:48 +0000

Sounds like no matter where LL draws the lines they’re going to exclude and upset people. Art strikes me as being one of those things where it’s not a case of whether something is or isn’t, but rather a question of degree. I think there’s always going to be people arguing that if one thing is considered art then so too should something else. Personally I like your idea of art being something that elicits an emotional response or has a unique experience. I think for me, it’s also about expressing something in a novel way.

Whatever definition they go with I’m just hoping that six or twelve months down the line the committee doesn’t morph into some kind of elitist buddy network :S

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